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UCSF Oral History Program
The Archival Series is comprised of desktop published volumes, wirebound in an easy to use and read format. Copies are available in UC Systemwide Libraries and at the National Library of Medicine.
- Interviews with Malcolm S. M. Watts, M.D.
Perspectives of an Academic Clinician-Administrator
- Interviews with Edward Shaw, M.D.
Communicable Disease and Clinical Research (Forthcoming)
- Interviews with Elbridge Best, M.D.
Reminiscences of the Early Twentieth Century on the San Francisco Campus (Forthcoming)
- Interviews with Hulda Thelander, M.D.
A Woman Physician's Perspective on Pediatrics and Medical Education (Forthcoming)
- Interviews with Lloyd "Holly" Smith, Jr., M.D.
Building a Research-oriented Department of Medicine
- Interviews with Robert Credé, M.D.
Fostering Primary Care on a Research Campus
- Interviews with Clark Kerr, Ph.D.
A UC President's View of the Expanding Research University
- Interviews with Morton Meyer, M.D.
Postwar Transformations from the Clinical Faculty Perspective
- Joint Interview with Clark Kerr, Ph.D. and Morton Meyer, M.D.
Eyewitnesses to the UC Campus Controversies of the Mid-1960s
- Interviews with W. Francis Ganong, M.D.
Neuroendocrinology in the Academic Medical School
- Interviews with John Clements, M.D.
The Story of Pulmonary Surfactant and Basic Science in the Cardiovascular Research Institute
- Interviews with Richard J. Havel, M.D.
Lipoprotein Research and Leadership in the Cardiovascular Research Institute (Forthcoming)
- Interviews with Robert Fishman, M.D.
Building Neurology: Teaching, Research and Patient Care
- Interviews with Isidore Edelman, M.D.
Promoting Biophysics on a Clinical Campus (Forthcoming)
- Interviews with Nicholas Petrakis, M.D.
Postwar Cancer Research at UCSF
- Interviews with Rudi Schmid, M.D., Ph.D.
Balancing Science and Education Within the School of Medicine
- Interviews with Alex Margulis, M.D.
Campus Revolution and Innovations in Radiology (Forthcoming)
- Molecular Biology and Biotechnology Series:
Interviews with Herbert W. Boyer, Ph.D.
Recombinant DNA Research at UCSF and Commercial Application at Genentech
Jointly Published with the Regional Oral History Office, Bancroft Library, University of California, Berkeley
- Molecular Biology and Biotechnology Series:
Interviews with William J. Rutter, Ph.D.
The Department of Biochemistry and the Molecular Approach to Biomedicine at the University of California, San Francisco
Interviews with Malcolm S. M. Watts, M.D. 
Perspectives of an Academic Clinician-Administrator
Dr. Watts arrived on campus as chief resident of Medicine in 1947 and has remained an active campus figure until the present day. He served on the Cardiovascular Board in the pre-Comroe days and recalls William J. Kerr's role in creating a niche for cardiovascular research at UC. As "foreign secretary" in John Saunders's administration in the early 1960s, Dr. Watts mediated between "town and gown." In the 1970s he continued his involvement in academic planning, serving with the California Area Health Education Center. He was editor of the Western Journal of Medicine for 22 years, and as he reveals in these interviews, a continual champion of the Fifth School, School of Human Biology, and later the San Francisco consortium.
Interviews with Edward Shaw, M.D.
Communicable Disease and Clinical Research
Described by his acquaintances as a "big Santa Claus of a man," Dr. Shaw recalls his long experience pediatric practice treating meningococcal meningitis, polio, and diphtheria in the days before antibiotics. The book also includes an interview that Dr. Shaw conducted with his mentor, Dr. K. F. Meyer, longtime campus figure and head of the Hooper Foundation.
Interviews with Elbridge Best, M.D.
Reminiscences of the Early Twentieth Century on the San Francisco Campus
This interview brings the reader back to the first decade of the twentieth century through the observant eyes of a member of the class of 1911. Dr. Best includes a log of his experiences during World War I as part of UCSF's Base Hospital #30 and recalls treating California syphilis patients with Ehrlich's "magic bullet" the drug Salvarsan. He was on the medical service when Ishi arrived at the UC campus and reminisces about caring for him during Ishi's five years of residence at Mt. Parnassus.
Interviews with Hulda Thelander, M.D.
A Woman Physicians' Perspective on Pediatrics and Medical Education
A woman's view of the profession from the days when female physicians were called "hen medics" tells of the unique practice environment in San Francisco in the interwar years and tracks her work in pediatrics and communicable disease research with Dr. Edward Shaw. In the 1960s she returns for a second tour of medical school and presents the reader with an opinionated diary of her four years' sojourn.
Interviews with Lloyd "Holly" Smith, Jr., M.D.
Building a Research-oriented Department of Medicine
In 1964 Walter Bauer's Harvard protégé decides to come to a relatively unknown UC campus, because, as he recalls, "it just seemed to me that this institution was poised to change, and it had the opportunity to change in a very exciting and positive way." This interview reveals the detailed story of Holly Smith's twenty-one year term as Chair of the Department of Medicine, as he spearheaded important recruitment efforts, equalized medical services at SFGH and the VA and Parnassus, and guided a clinical department through an unprecedented turn towards basic science. He also reveals his experiences on the board of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute and comments on important issues in modern medical education.
Interviews with Robert Credé, M.D.
Fostering Primary Care on a Research Campus
Described by colleagues as the philosopher-gentleman of the UC campus, Dr. Credé talks about building an innovative primary care teaching pathway in a campus threatening to become preoccupied with basic research. His perspective is that of a traditional California-trained faculty member who witnessed firsthand the dramatic transformations of the mid 1960s and who flourished in the midst of an era of change.
Interviews with Clark Kerr, Ph.D.
A UC President's View of the Expanding Research University
This interview provides a glimpse of the private personality behind the public figure who led the University of California through what were arguably its most challenging and formative years in the postwar period.
Interviews with Morton Meyer, M.D.
Postwar Transformations from the Clinical Faculty Perspective
Dr. Meyer tells the inside story of campus troubles that led to a change in leadership at UCSF. As a quiet, but cogent observer of both sides of the controversy, he reflects on the rapid changes in American medicine and their repercussions for the future of clinical practice.
Joint Interview with Clark Kerr, Ph.D. & Morton Meyer, M.D.
Eyewitnesses to the UC Campus Controversies of the mid-1960s
In this volume, the university president and his personal physician recall the details of a controversy that threatened to destroy the University of California School of Medicine from within. The compromise and its outcome are discussed at length from both perspectives. The second edition will contain a 1997 roundtable discussion of the same events among Drs. L. Holly Smith, Morton Meyer and Clark Kerr.
Interviews with W. Francis Ganong, M.D.
Neuroendocrinology in the Academic Medical School
One of California's early Harvard émigrés from George Thorn and David Hume's lab, Dr. William F. "Fran" Ganong came first to UC Berkeley, and helped move the Physiology department to the San Francisco campus in 1958, pursuing research in neuroendocrinology. In 1970 he became Chair of Physiology and concentrated his "blue chips" in neuroscience. During his chairmanship Physiology expanded from seven FTEs to the locus of over eighty faculty and the administrative home of one of the best neuroscience programs in the nation.
Interviews with John Clements, M.D.
The Story of Pulmonary Surfactant and Basic Science in the Cardiovascular Research Institute
An award-winning basic scientist reveals how Comroe's design for the Cardiovascular Research Institute created a productive research environment and allowed his work to flourish undisturbed by campus politics. He describes his path breaking development of Exosurf (Lung Surfactant) as just "a pimple on the pumpkin" compared to other important basic science research being done in the CVRI.
Interviews with Richard J. Havel, M.D.
Lipoprotein Research and Leadership in the Cardiovascular Research Institute
Arriving in California from the fledgling NIH Clinical Center, Dr. Havel recalls that "there was nowhere to go but up" in building a research program at San Francisco in the mid 1950s. He outlines landmark developments in lipoprotein research from its early descriptive days to the current mechanistic approach that has far-reaching clinical implications. Placing his research in the context of the CVRI, he shares his experience as director of the Institute after Julius Comroe. He also devotes a third of the interviews to specific background on Julius Comroe's crucial role in campus development.
Interviews with Robert Fishman, M.D.
Building Neurology: Teaching, Research and Patient Care
Dr. Robert A. Fishman was one of a handful of promising new leaders brought to the campus through recruiting efforts of UCSF faculty committed to transforming a good regional medical school into a world-class academic medical center. The Neurology search committee was intent on finding a new chair who would "lead and spark" a modern Department of Neurology, and in 1965, Dr. Fishman got the call from Dr. L. H. Smith to consider a move to chair Neurology at UCSF. Dr. Fishman's personal story mirrors the story of neurology, a specialty that was in transition throughout his career. In the immediate postwar years, the older style of descriptive neurology was on the wane, and neuroradiology was still very primitive. Dr. Fishman, along with "Bud" Rowland and others, were the young turks who revolutionized medical neurology through laboratory research and clinical applications. This interview provides a step-by-step account of the process of recruiting the best and brightest to develop a strict full-time system within a clinical department. It provides the details of how Dr. Fishman built a flexible program that could accommodate basic neuroscience, promote outstanding clinical training, and dovetail with other hospital services and research institutes. Success in Neurology at UCSF was no accident, but rather the product of careful leadership and seized opportunities.
Interviews with Isidore Edelman, M.D.
Promoting Biophysics on a Clinical Campus (Forthcoming)
Dr. Edelman provides a lively account of his arrival at SFGH in the early 1950s only to find that his promised "research space" was a basement room with only a naked light bulb. Undaunted, he found endowment support and began a dynamic research program in electrolyte physiology, focusing on sodium transport. Moving gradually from clinical involvement to pure biophysics and biochemistry, he was instrumental in recruiting promising basic scientists to UCSF, and later built a stellar Department of Biochemistry at Columbia.
Interviews with Nicholas Petrakis, M.D.
Postwar Cancer Research at UCSF
Dr. Petrakis discusses cancer research at San Francisco from the first extramural NCI lab funded in the nation (the UCSF Laboratory of Experimental Oncology 1947-1953) to the early chemotherapy trials of the Cancer Research Institute. A seasoned observer of campus politics, Dr. Petrakis recalls updating curriculum in Preventive Medicine, and his role in developing a Department of Epidemiology and International Health, which later became Epidemiology and Biostatistics. Throughout, he ran an active research program studying genetic markers in cancer epidemiology.
Interviews with Rudi Schmid, M.D., Ph.D.
Balancing Science and Education Within the School of Medicine
One of UCSF's most powerful campus personalities, Rudi Schmid tells of his early years in neutral Switzerland, and how mountain climbing and skiing brought him career opportunities, first as an intern at UCSF, and later to study porphyrins at Minnesota with C. J. Watson. The interview covers his path breaking work in porphyrins and bilirubin metabolism at some length. When he was appointed dean of the School of Medicine in 1983, he was well aware that the campus community expected him to be the "pure research" dean. Here Dr. Schmid reveals his interest and concern for reform in medical education and the development of the new instructional patterns on campus. His story also delineates his forceful support of basic science on campus that culminated in the creation of the Program in Biological Sciences, PIBS.
Interviews with Alex Margulis, M.D.
Campus Revolution and Innovations in Radiology
Coming to UCSF as Chair of the Radiology in 1963, Dr. Margulis provides a detailed account of the campus revolution of the mid 1960s. He then describes development of CT scanning, MRI, (the story of Diasonics), and the massive task of the department in educating the nation's radiologists in use of these new technologies. His innovations are testament to what he identifies as UCSF's great strength: "moving cutting-edge science into the clinical arena."
Molecular Biology and Biotechnology Series:
Interviews with Herbert W. Boyer, Ph.D.
Recombinant DNA Research at UCSF and Commercial Application at Genentech
View the reference chronology of events.
Arriving at UCSF in 1966 as a new assistant professor with a strong interest in microbial genetics, Herbert Boyer was faced with teaching medical students on a campus with imposing clinical traditions, and his perspective as a young researcher is revealed vividly in this interview. The San Francisco campus in the mid-1960s was being transformed into a basic research powerhouse, and the young Ph.D. bench scientist was more interested in bacterial plasmids as minimolecules containing genetic determinants than in teaching the dry facts about pathogens in the older traditional microbiological sense. Through these conversations, Dr. Boyer candidly reconstructs the uncertainties that marked his early research career, and then identifies key practical research strategies, as well as personal breakthroughs. As co-founder of Genentech, he provides crucial insider information on early company research, describing the work on somatostatin, and the race to clone the insulin gene. He also comments on the contentious environment of the 1970s as the government and universities sought to assess the biohazards and financial implications of the new recombinant DNA technology.
The interview includes an introduction by UCSF Chancellor, Michael Bishop, M.D. based upon his firsthand experience as a colleague of Herb Boyer and a contemporary participant in UCSF's transformation in the 1970s. Hard-bound copies of this interview are available UCSF Kalmanovitz Library, and at cost from UCSF's Department of Anthropology, History and Social Medicine. (Contact Nancy Rockafellar)
The full text is available at the Online Archive of California.
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